The Archos 9 has been with us for about 5 days now and we’re due to send it back to Mobilx in a few days so we thought we better get an early review out to you all. This isn’t an in-depth review but it’s everything we’ve learnt from the live session and time we’ve had with it since unboxing.
For full specifications, check out the Archos 9 information page in our database.
Archos launched the Archos 9 to the U.S. market in September with a rather bold marketing statement.
“The next generation of Netbooks”
In our opinion, that statement is somewhat overblown. The Archos 9 is neither the next generation of netbooks or even the next generation of mobile entertainment. What we’ve got here is lightweight PC tablet that really fails to push boundaries in mobility, entertainment or productivity.
Around the device.
Build quality is excellent along with the buttons and overall styling. We really like the look of the Archos 9. The matt touchscreen (resistive) is reasonably bright and sharp although it doesn’t ‘pop’ like other screens we’ve seen. The 800gm device is used in either two-hands (with the thumb on the optical mouse pointer to drive the Windows 7 Starter Edition user interface), with one hand (for brief periods of using the touchscreen) or on a table as a viewer or ‘netbook’ screen with external keyboard and mouse. The 8.9 inch, 1024×600 screen is actually pretty good when used on its stand for such a scenario.
Two good quality stereo speakers, a 1.3mp webcam, built-in mic, headphone port (no mic input) and single USB2.0 output complete the line-up of standard ports. There’s a docking connector on the bottom which is used for an optional break-out port (VGA, LAN, USB, Mic-in, Line out)
On the back of the device you’ll find an extendable flip-out stand which hasn’t been very well designed. Moving the device to the right when on the stand results in the stand collapsing. That’s not good for devices with hard drives! The pivot also looks to be a potential weak point too.
Inside the device.
Archos have built the ‘9’ around the single-threaded Atom 1.1Ghz Z510 which we’ve seen in a few other devices before. A 60GB HDD, 1GB of RAM and some hardware video decoding from the chipset are also included. With Windows 7 Starter we have to say ‘disappointing.’
Wifi b/g and Bluetooth are included but there’s no 3G module included.
Usability.
Driving Windows 7 with a touchscreen can be a fun experience. Almost all of the default UI is easily accessible and as Archos have framed the touchscreen with a very thin (height) frame, there’s no problem with accessing corners of the screen as we’ve seen on other devices.
Finger-nail touch is the easiest although there is a (thin and flimsy) stylus included in a slot of the rear.
If you’re holding the device in two hands though (as you most definitely will have to after a while 800gms isn’t light enough for a long-term single handed experience) your right thumb will fall to the optical mouse. It’s quick and accurate and we like it a lot. Call us lazy but taking one hand off a device to touch the screen while sofa-surfing is not ideal.
A/V features.
Unlike Archos media devices, the Archos 9 comes with standard Windows 7 media support. H.264, Divx, MPEG-2 and WMV appear to be supported out of the box and there’s full flash support if you need that for online videos. (see performance notes below.) We think the media player applications is good enough for most people but if you have a personal windows favorite, you will have no problems installing it.
As mentioned above, speaker quality is good but there’s no digital output. If you’re looking for a home cinema component you’d be better off with the Archos 5 and the docking station with remote control.
A/V performance.
In a recorded live testing session we took a number of formats and checked out the performance. Unfortunately the results were not that impressive with the standard benchmark YouTube videos failing to play smoothly in anything but low-quality embedded versions. DivX and WMV support appears to work well up to a point but higher bitrates can cause problems. Our benchmark ‘Coral Reef Adventures’ WMVHD file didn’t play well at all. This is a video we see almost 100% success-rate with on netbooks. H.264 at 720p / 2Mbps works well (and looks great) but higher bitrates will start causing dropouts.
We saw no real evidence that the video decoding hardware was taking the strain from the CPU.
This is a Windows device and there are many thousands of iterations programs and codecs that can be used on the platform. In theory the platform is capable of much more than we have seen in our tests but as the Archos 9 appears to be targeted at the consumer, we feel it should be working to it’s full capability out of the box.
Windows Performance.
Regular tasks on Windows worked slowly and in benchmark tests we saw some very poor hard disk, memory and CPU scores that indicate that the Archos 9 is truly half of a netbook. Firefox regularly took over 10 seconds to start up and the login process on Windows 7 needs a minute or two before it has settled down and allows the user a judder-free run of the UI.
Combining a slow, single-threading CPU with the HDD, 1GB RAM and Windows 7 looks like a poor choice on paper and in reality, the story isn’t much different. Web Browsing with a maximum of two or three tabs (or a Flash blocker) is all you can expect although single-tab page loads are quite fast. Office apps will run on the device and the 60GB drive gives plenty of space for installing programs (although don’t expect anything near 60GB. Due to partitioning and a rescue partition, you’ve got less than half of that to play with.)
Windows 7 Experience Index.
Processor: 1.3
Memory: 1.9
Graphics: 2.9
Gaming Graphics: 2.3
Primary Hard Disk: 4.1
CrystalMark Tests.
CrystalMark is a free application and available here.
11562 is not good. Netbooks are normally around the 20K mark. A ultra mobile PC with the 1.3Ghz CPU and a fast SSD can also reach over 20K.
Web Performance test.
Timed uncached pages over a local hotspot. First figure is time to start scrolling around text. Second figure is total page load time. Flash enabled.
- Carrypad.com 7/10
- Google News 3/3
- CNN.com 5/9
- Facebook.com 2/3
- uk,yahoo.com 5/6
- Techmeme.com 4/10
- Engadget.com 5/15
Results are good for a sub 1KG device.
Full Archos 9 Specifications and further reading.
On screen keyboard.
It seems that integrating an on-screen keyboard has always been an issue for tablet and ultra mobile PC manufacturers and the Archos on-screen keyboard doesn’t solve the problem. We ask ourselves why they couldn’t have taken the extra step to integrate a full Windows 7 Home Premium version instead of using third party software.
The virtual keyboard, ‘Touch It’ by Chessware, does it’s job and has a host of features that we haven’t really got to grips with yet. It even includes a keyboard designer program which looks like it could be useful for designing split keyboards or, given the capability, on-screen macro buttons but the same old problems remain. Some notification boxes block the keyboard (it’s impossible to use the Start menu search feature for example) and there’s no automatic pop-up keyboard when input fields are highlighted. Windows 7 touch features are so much better integrated than the Archos 9 offering.
Battery Life
One advantage of the Z-series Atom processor and the accompanying chipset is that it can operate at very low power. Battery llife on the Archos 9 will rarely be below 3hrs (a high-bitrate video at high screen brightness and Wifi-on would probably push it below 3hrs) and normaly you should expect about 3.25 to 3.5hrs active usage of the device. As an input terminal with Wifi turned off and a simple text editor running, you’ll probably be able to squeeze 5hrs out of the device.
Rotation / Ebook reading.
The Archos 9 looks appealing in portrait mode but beware, 800gms is not for ebook reading! The relatively short battery life and average screen brightness doesn’t’ help either.
Heat / Noise.
The Archos 9 is silent (fanless) and keeps cool across most of the device. On charging or heavy use you will find a warm area develop just where the left finger wrap around the device (when holding in two hands.) This area gets warm but not hot.
Other notes:
- Skype performance was good with an audio-only stream. Video introduced high CPU and the framerate wasn’t that good. With good lighting, no programs running in the background and a good connection, the video performance was acceptable however.
- No SD card reader.
- Single USB 2.0 port
- Return from standby was good although keyboard input slows down the re-login process if used.
- Wifi performance was average to good in terms of reception and throughput.
- We did not attempt any Windows 7 optimisations
- Windows 7 Starter Edition appears to have no hibernation mode.
- The Broadcom Wifi module appears to only support G networks.
- The included Vtuner player works well. The radio section is something we enjoyed on the Archos 5 to. The application is freely available but costs $29.99
- No hyperthreading on this CPU.
- Lack of Tablet features in Windows 7 is an opportunity missed.
- Limited storage space. 60GB HDD offers 25 GB or less of free space. (+13GB free on ‘recovery’ drive)
- No easy ability to turn off Wifi or Bluetooth to save battery power.
Full Archos 9 Specifications and further reading.
Availability and price.
The Archos 9 is available globally through online retailers for prices between 500 and 600 Euros.
Summary.
The Archos 9 looks great, feels great and due to the current tablet-fever that we’re seeing around the Internet, somehow seems like the right product at the right time. In reality it isn’t and should serve as a wake-up call to everyone getting excited about consumer tablets. There are huge physical and software issues for tablet PC designers to overcome and through our experience with UMPCs over the last 3 years it’s easy to see that the Archos 9 doesn’t really solve them. The problem for the Archos 9 however is that it neither hits the mark as a consumer tablet or as a niche ultra-mobile productivity device for ultra mobile PC fans. It’s too heavy and too slow, doesn’t shine as a media player due to lack of storage, software and online media support. It doesn’t shine as a productivity device due to the lack of keyboard and doesn’t shine as a mobility device due to weight and lack of 3G. If the Archos 9 had a fast SSD and full tablet-enabled Windows 7 Premium OS with 2GB of RAM and a 1.3 or 1.6Ghz processor it might be a different story as the device would at least then work as a fast, productive ultra mobile PC but even then, the ASUS T91 is already there at just 150gm more.
Alternatives.
Click through to see some alternative devices in our database.
Again, the Archos 9 looks great and for web-browsing is a fast, easy to read and reliable device but in practice, this device fails to show any great strengths for the price.
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“”Call us lazy but taking one hand off a device to touch the screen while sofa-surfing is not ideal.””
Well, I would not call this lazy: Thats the only right way for stress free (effortless) sofa-surfing. My future tablet needs to have this additional “optical mouse” feature, otherwise its a deal breaker.
Well done Chippy. I Like the review. Its a shame the system that looks so good can only fall flat when it comes to simple things that its made for. I was considering the Archos 9 as a replacement for my Samsung Q1UP But after reading your review I must say “NO WAY!” (lol) Very good review.
"What we’ve got here is a PC tablet that fails to push boundaries in mobility, entertainment or productivity." http://bit.ly/4VB8NV
The Archos 9 "should serve as a wake-up call to everyone getting excited about consumer tablets." http://bit.ly/7rPKrk
Cool! RT @LorenHeiny: The Archos 9 "should serve as a wake-up call to everyone getting excited about consumer tablets." http://bit.ly/7rPKrk
I am still not clear about whether GMA 500 has hardware video decode or not and if it does whether you need special video playing software to take advantage of it. From your review, it would appear hardware decode doesn’t work, at least not on the Archos 9.
For me the Archos 9 had could been a big hit in the Tablet Scene. But they made some mistakes.
Thanks for the Review and the Videos and Live Show you made. Was fun and good information.
Phew, thank you for this review. I was really worried that I’d want to get rid of my x70 and get one of these. however, after seeing this it sounds like the X70 is a better device…
Great review. Funny enough I’m waiting for a T91MT to land on my lap, guess Amazon gotta have a Christmas too hehe. Hope they hurry, can’t wait to see what I spent 500 bucks on. I got some cool stuff going on in my VS2010 for the tablet and can’t wait to test it.
You guys have the Merriest Christmas, a Happy New Year and make sure you rest, ’cause I’m dieing to see your coverage of the CES. I’m sure you’ll make bang my head against the wall for not waiting a few more months. And I don’t expect less.
How if the SSD version with W7? Will it be better performance or at least similar compare to viliv X70EX?
This comment system sucks. I just lost some text to an automatic page refresh.
Dont use automatic page refresh then ;-)
Funny how you blame Intel for bad performance and Microsoft for lacking software.
Archos 9 is cheaper than Viliv X70, with a larger screen, newer software.
Really funny you demand SSD, Windows 7 Ultimate, HSDPA and more RAM. Those things cost money, so if you want them, pay for them. Archos could release a high-end $799 version of the tablet. I much prefer this basic version that they can launch towards $400 at the cheapest resellers.
Microsoft is proud to offer you a Windows 7 upgrade from Starter edition to Home Premium for $80. Give your money to Microsoft if that is what you want. Or wait for Microsoft to realize that Tablet features should be included in Starter edition tablets as well. I myself would not want to pay a $80 premium on the product for a Microsoft premium upgrade. I’d even enjoy it if Archos cut $50 on the device and provide it without any Microsoft software on it whatsoever. Chromium OS and Ubuntu dual-booting FTW. Though Intel would have to provide video acceleration for Linux.
Archos 9 pctablet:
Dimensions: 256 x 134 x 17 mm
Weight: 800 grams
Asus eeepc t91mt:
Dimensions: 226 x 165 x 25 mm
Weight: 953 grams
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The next generation of Netbooks…
… now with FAIL !
:D
For h.264 hardware decoding with gma500 use http://nunnally.ahmygoddess.net/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva/
the tablet futures are disabled not because of W7 Starter, but because the touchscreen works as a PS2 device not a HID -can be fixed by a proper driver (viliv x70) but propably won’t be (i.e. S5)
my viliv x70 has a Z520 1,33 with HT so i presume Z510 will also have it despite lower clocks
First of all, happy Christmas everybody!
You mentioned that hibernate seems to be absent from the Win7 start edition (as you did in the live session). Funny thing is that it’s working here on my Archos 9 just fine :). Maybe I enabled it through some power mgmt setting, I not sure.
No matter what OS, all I care is will it be better if using the same SSD. You know although same hardware, it may comes up different performance due to different brand. All I knew is Viliv’s product got very good performance, but it’s too expensive. If Archos 9 has similar performance but with larger screen and cheaper price, I definitely go for Archos 9 (4 hours battery life is enough for me.)
Archos 9 Review. http://bit.ly/6VGBkt
#mobile
Archos 9 Review. http://bit.ly/6VGBkt
I’ve got the eviGroup Pad for me and a Archos 9 for my wife and my opinion is :
– Pad is better than Archos every time every where, but weight is more (990g) and battery life is less (about 2.5hrs).
– Customers service for Archos9 does’nt exits and its very fast for eviGroup. I send a email, i know that i have an answer within 2hours ! Very very impressive.
I send back the Archos 9 after 6 days of test and i purchase a second evi pad for January, really, the difference is real, we have a real tablet w/ evi, we have a gadget with archos.
I’m really interested in the EviPad, but the 2.5 hour battery life scares me a bit. What type of use have you been giving it. How is the screen brightness in full daylight?
Is this a unit that non-French speakers can use without a problem, i.e. also customer support? How is the handling of the pad while standing, can you hold it in one hand and type in the other without risking dropping the unit?
Where did you get your evi Group Pad from
I have been searching for a dealer
seems a total waste of money :( http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/12/archos-9-review/4/ #archos9 #fail
Full Archos9 review on umpcportal.com http://bit.ly/8xqd9C
I’ve had this for a couple of weeks now and I have to say that I ended up using it more than I thought I would… However it has two major flaws:
-it really needs a multi-touch screen as scrolling through a large web page is almost impossible without trying to hit the top and bottom buttons of the scroll bar which is not an easy fit without using a stylus
– the CPU is not powerful enough. For instance using skype for voice calls is a bit of a struggle…
Does anyone know if Samsung is going to continue making the Samsung Q1 Ultra Premium?
What woudl be the best replacement for that device.
Wow. To be honest there’s nothing in that category any more. A fujitsu P1630 is the nearest I can think of but only because it’s light and has a powerful CPU.
J&R just canceled my pre-order of the Archos 9 because, according to them, it was discontinued by the manufacturer. Does anyone know what’s going on?
I just got off the phone with Archos… apparently the reason I’ve been waiting so long is my order was cancelled too. The rep had no idea why. I had to re-order.
Nice review BTW, I think this product could still work for me. I’m a college student looking for something good for the classroom. My laptop is okay, but the battery life is not adequate, and plugs are scarce. I know I could get a netbook to fix the issue, but I’m also a fan of the Archos 9 form factor. This would be a lot better than a netbook in long car rides I would think, you could probably strap it to a headrest like the Archos 7.
I feel like Ubuntu might help the performance on this thing if you could figure out how to get all the right drivers for the webcam, touchscreen, mic, buttons, etc… Definitely helped on my laptop.
I’ve seen a spec sheet giving a product number for a version in White, and some sites even allow you to pre-order a white version… The Archos rep said “We will not be shipping a white version, there is only one color, black.”
Archos 9 Review. http://bit.ly/6VGBkt
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Archos 9 Review. http://bit.ly/6VGBkt
Archos 9 Review. http://bit.ly/6VGBkt
Archos 9 Review. http://bit.ly/6VGBkt
Archos 9 Review. http://bit.ly/6VGBkt